Posts by Crisis of Conscience

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About Therapy/Counseling

by Mad Sweeney in

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friends

if it becomes obvious to strangers on an internet message board that you should get therapy/counseling:.

my wife and i are in therapy both separately and together.

we're not crazy; we're getting help talking through issues we've never had to face before from a professional who knows how to talk us through things.

I began going primarily to confront feelings I had regarding physical abuse from my father while growing up. But at the same time, I was facing feelings of burnout in my "service" to Jehovah. I was begining to wake up and so a lot of the ridiculous things in the org that I ignored finally began to bother me and I had to address them.

These days I find myself much calmer and happier, though I am generally a happy person. My doctor has even pointed that out to me.

What I really enjoy about therapy is definitely the perspective that is given you. But a therapist DOES NOT solve your problems. Rather, as has been mentioned here, they help you to understand why you feel the way you do and often offer practical suggestions. The rest is up to you. You must be proactive in applying some, if not all, of the suggestions you receive.

I feel that therapy has, in a large way, contributed to giving me the boldness to make my own decisions rather than continuing living to please men.

I absolutely encourage those with the resources and opportunities to take advantage of it. And no, you're not crazy for doing it. Give it a chance.

CoC

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Does The Watchtower even try to prove 607BCE anymore?

by VM44 in

when was the last time that the watchtower published an article that attempted to prove the year 607 b.c.e.

was correct over the year 587 b.c.e.?.

the watchtower now simply mentions the year in its publications without attempting to justify it.. proof through repetition?.

Crisis of Conscience

Marked - to have Blondie's collection of Watchtower quotes on this subject organized and on hand.
Thanks Blondie!!

CoC

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Condemn the Adulterers Too

by Spade in

condemn the adulterers too.

may 21, 2010. from jill carroll, houston religion expert and author.

this weeks' news brought us the story of a catholic elementary school rescinding the acceptance of a child because his parents are lesbians.

Crisis of Conscience

You might as well "become" a witness. You defend them so strongly.

LOL @ sabastious !!

CoC

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The Gentile Times Reconsidered

by Spade in

disproving the date 1914 as a significant year in bible prophecy is of great importance to some (e.g.

carl o. jonsson).

along with the meticulous details of bible and secular chronology, broadening one's horizons when assessing exactly what this date represents when compared against the 6000 years of human history likewise has merit.

Crisis of Conscience

@ TheJigsUp - The country of Panama currently offers delivery service not only at KFC but also other fast food restaurants like McDonald's, Burger King, etc. Obesity at it's finest.

We can now return to our blinded Spade thread. Somewhat sorry to derail.

CoC

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The Gentile Times Reconsidered

by Spade in

disproving the date 1914 as a significant year in bible prophecy is of great importance to some (e.g.

carl o. jonsson).

along with the meticulous details of bible and secular chronology, broadening one's horizons when assessing exactly what this date represents when compared against the 6000 years of human history likewise has merit.

Crisis of Conscience

If you recall Spade's original story, he/she/it wasn't a witness, but merely spoke with those that were studying with its "wife".

For "not being" a witness, it sure is savy with those Watchtower quotes, and it even has a copy of the Watchtower library!

Things that make you go.................................hmmmmm.

Will it return to it's post, or will it continue to be blinded? I'm opting for the latter.

And yes Spade, you can view this contribution to your thread as nothing worthwhile in your eyes.

CoC

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The Gentile Times Reconsidered

by Spade in

disproving the date 1914 as a significant year in bible prophecy is of great importance to some (e.g.

carl o. jonsson).

along with the meticulous details of bible and secular chronology, broadening one's horizons when assessing exactly what this date represents when compared against the 6000 years of human history likewise has merit.

Crisis of Conscience

Once again, YOU ARE ON AN "APOSTATE" WEBSITE!!
Why are you continually trying to teach something here when you could be "helping" people at empty homes?
Oh, I see. You and the GB are cool like that. You got special permission to post here.
Seems like you should be the one bugging off. With so much copying and pasting, I can only imagine your Watchtower study comments. Word-for-word.
Go knock on a door or on your head. Take your pick.

CoC

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Networking with Jehovahs Witnesses or people who are bible studieing

by flowerpower123 in

jw
friends

i am a 32 old woman live in the netherlands.

like to make friends all over the world...brothers and sisters.

always nice when you come to holland , or when i come to your country.

Crisis of Conscience

Is it just me, or did a anyone else notice the old copy and paste maneuver by our dear new member? Sounds fishy......new alias? Just sayin'. That's all. CoC

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It's amazing how many things in the publications and even talks are opinion but made to appear as fact.

by Crisis of Conscience in

at the convention recently, i can remember different reasons being given as to why the end is near.

pick whatever one suits you best but basically it goes, 'because this and that has happened, the end is ever closer.'.

well here are some of my ridiculous opinions stated as fact, just to prove a point.. if you put pepperoni on pizza, there is no way a person will reject it.

Crisis of Conscience

BTTT

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What is it with all the men waking up but the wives stay in? Why is it the opposite for me?

by Cadellin in

this is something i've thought about for a while now.

it seems like the same story on this board over and over--the husband, who also might be an elder, ms, etc.--starts having doubts and researching, aka miseryloveselders and franklin massey and others.

he starts to smell the coffee and realizes that this organization isn't what it claims to be.

Crisis of Conscience

I admit to being one of the persons that spoke about feeling and thinking. But I didn't throw the blame on women completely.
I've based my comments on MY experience and the females that I have been around. And I don't say that men aren't emotional because then how would I explain my situation.
Logically, I should've left already. But emotionally I fight with the "feeling" of 'what if' at times.
In my opinion, logic doesn't necessarily involve caring. Emotion does. And in my case I've seen more of that caring, sometimes expressed in the form of worrying, more by women. But not ALL being women. Men too, we can be big emotional babies.
So at this time, I offer an apology if I've offended, and also kindly ask all to remove the knot from their skid-stained panties. Thank you.

CoC

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Were you 'alive in '75' and how was that year for you?

by punkofnice in

i was a junior borgite in 1975. i remeber looking at the calendar at work in october and thinking: 'armageddon isn't here yet.....and it doesn't feel like it will be here anytime soon either!'.

i was surprised that jehovah hadn't obeyed the superior command to bring the big 'a' as instructed to him by fred franz.

how dare god disobey the jw leader!!!!!.

Crisis of Conscience

A sister I know that is close to her 60's now recounted her time of being alive during '75. Her unbelieving father got tired of hearing her talk about the end at that time and finally asked, "...and what if it doesn't come? What will you do them?"
She said, "Dad, if they are wrong and it doesn't come, I will stop being a witness."
Fast forward 36 years and two kids later, she's still a witness. Apparently, she never told her father WHEN she would stop.
Amazingly enough, he is still NOT a believer or witness, yet she on the other hand seems to have an unshakeable faith in the org and it's illustrative FDS.
My words if I were him, "Sweetheart, give it up already. Look, they were wrong about you not growing old too."

It's great hearing people's experiences about this time because I wasn't even alive to undergo it. Yet it really bothers me that so many fell for it. A dream, a crock. Ah, same thing.

CoC